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I’m being rude and shoehorning this in here up top because I want to ensure other NC readers see it and give their input. It strikes me as pretty questionable, but maybe I’m missing something. As follows —

I’ve just been reading the paper ‘A Prothrombotic Thrombocytopenic Disorder Resembling Heparin-Induced Thrombocytopenia Following Coronavirus-19 Vaccination’ which is the German study released on Monday arguing for a correlation between the AZ-Oxford COV19 adenovirus vector vaccine and blood-clotting.

Link is here, w. option to download PDF —
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-362354/v1

Six researchers have co-authored it. I read their conflicts of interest statement down at the bottom.

[A] Two of the six co-authors make the following statements —

Dr. Thiele reports grants from Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft, during the conduct of the study; personal fees and other from Bristol Myers Squibbpersonal fees and other from Pfizer , personal fees from Bayer, personal fees and other from ChugaiPharma, other from Novo Nordisk, personal fees from Novartis, other from Daichii Sankyo, outside the submitted work

Dr. Eichinger reports personal fees from Bayer, Bristol Myers Squibb, Daichii Sankyo, and Pfizer, and Pfizer, all of which are outside the submitted work.

[B] One co-author makes the following statement —

Dr. Greinacher reports grants and non-financial support from Aspen, Boehringer Ingelheim, MSD, Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS),Paringenix, Bayer Healthcare, Gore Inc., Rovi, Sagent, Biomarin/Prosensa, personal fees from Aspen, Boehringer Ingelheim, MSD, Macopharma, BMS, Chromatec, Instrumentation Laboratory, Portola, Ergomed, GTH e.V. outside the submitted work.

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Me again. it’s sometimes inevitable that a limited number of experts exists in certain areas and at some point many of them have taken money from the obvious big players.

Nevertheless, is this level of conflict of interest — three of the six co-authors have taken or are now taking money from Pfizer and Bristol Myers Squibb (a latecomer to the COV19 vaccine game, with their own candidate on the way) — really considered acceptable and legitimate?

 
  1. IM Doc

    If you look at every member of the FDA advisory panel that approved the Pfizer and Moderna and J&J EUA – you will find more conflicts of interest than you could write in a novel. This would have never been tolerated a generation ago. And that is just one example.

    What I am saying is it is not just the journals and the medical literature – the corruption is everywhere at the highest and lowest levels.

    I have many friends and colleagues who work in our large national medical agencies – when I talk to them I often become nauseous. The exact same is true in our great medical universities and centers everywhere. All corrupted by Big Pharma and Big Hospital and Big Insurance bucks. This fact is a large reason why I personally am no longer in academic medicine. My forebears on this planet instilled in me the idea that I am going to have to stand and account for my life one day when I meet my maker – and I could no longer fathom working in that environment. The corruption is tentacled everywhere in ways you could never imagine.

    Sorry to be so depressing – but it is truth.

 DJG, Reality Czar

Trends in COVID infections. I am highly concerned that we are going into a new wave.

Last weekend, Illinois had inched up to 1,800 to 2,000 new cases a day. Two days ago, the number reported was 2,500 new cases. Now I see that yesterday’s report is 3,500 cases.

Something is going seriously wrong. Are people just dropping their masks and going to indoor dining? Is it some false sense of security? Is one of the vaccines that much less effective than reported?

 
  1. savedbyirony

    It is the effect of variants and especially B.1.1.7, at least in Ohio. Our numbers are rising, quickest up north by the Michigan boarder. Virus fatigue and slight loosening of some restrictions are not helping but the B.1.1.7 is spreading here, becoming the most common strain detected.

     
  2. IM Doc

    I really hate to say this – but I believe you are correct. It is all of a sudden happening in my little area of the world. Very slowly – just like it did before. Until we have better clarification – I would urge all to continue taking precautions and be safe.

    There is a voice in the back of my head that is becoming increasingly worried about one little piece of data that seems to be missing from all these press reports.

    I have seen several releases today from Michigan and the NorthEast that are discussing that the case numbers are going up substantially. I have a very simple question. Are these mostly vaccinated or unvaccinated people that are involved in this surge? It is actually a very important question to be asking right now.

    I worry that the fact that this is not being discussed anywhere in these news reports is a bad sign that there are more vaccinated patients becoming ill than our media/political/health leaders would like to admit.

    I am very untrusting of anything that has to do with Big Pharma – and increasingly our national health agencies – you can call it thirty years of very hard lessons.

    I will reiterate. I feel this is a very important question for EVERYONE to know. I have no knowledge of this one way or the other. However, I fear that if this was mainly unvaccinated people, we would be hearing this blasted from the rooftops. The fact that this is not being discussed out loud – is concerning at best.

    And again – this just may be my PTSD from Big Pharma paranoia speaking.

  1. antidlc

    “I have seen several releases today from Michigan and the NorthEast that are discussing that the case numbers are going up substantially. I have a very simple question. Are these mostly vaccinated or unvaccinated people that are involved in this surge?”

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/young-unvaccinated-adults-fuel-covid-19-hospitalization-surge-in-michigan.html

    COVID-19 hospitalizations are steadily increasing in Michigan, largely driven by a jump in cases among younger adults who have not been vaccinated yet, the Michigan Health & Hospital Association said March 24.

     
    1. IM Doc

      I HAve read this article just now.

      Unfortunately, this is a standard issue example of a strategy used repeatedly by those trying to obscure things.

      Raw numbers please.

      So the 30-39 age group has increased 500% and the over 80 has just gone up 30% according to this article.

      The baseline in this situation of hospital patients would be very low in the 30s but high in the 80s.

      The latest data I can find suggests that overall hospitalization for Covid is about 100 times more likely for 80 year olds than 30 year olds. The actual number is 82.9 times but using 100 makes my following example much easier to understand.

      I have no raw numbers but we will pretend there were 10 hospitalized thirty somethings in the state 2 weeks ago. That would make the 80 year olds at 1000.

      The 10 have increased by 500% for a total of 50 so 40 more.

      The 1000 80 year olds have increased by 30% or 300 more.

      40 likely non vaccinated young patients vs 300 likely vaccinated old patients. Now we have a much worse story for the vaccines than the headline would suggest.

      I have simplified this greatly with the 10 and the 1000 but this was derived from the fact that the difference between the age groups is really right at 100 times.

      These pharma people really know how to manipulate numbers to make things really benefit them – I have watched it for 30 years.

      I have done journal clubs my entire career to expose this for students. When raw numbers are not given – just percentages – the likelihood of games being played rises exponentially. When you see anything from medicine expressed in just percentage forms without raw numbers your skepticism red alert should go off.

      Until a news outlet is telling us the actual raw numbers of vaccinated or not, it is really difficult to know what to make of the situation.

      In this situation, it would also be helpful to see case numbers as well not just hospitalization numbers. Limiting to just hospital numbers leads to other obscuring issues.

       
Here, a full write-up first:

Christian Nationalism Is a Barrier to Mass Vaccination Against COVID-19

Posted on April 2, 2021 by 

Yves here. I’m running this post with its original headline, although the article doesn’t make terribly clear what “Christian nationalism” is. The author defines is at extreme evangelism but I’m at a loss to understand what makes that “nationalism”. The reason I am running this article is that it discusses an specific issue that IM Doc mentioned back in early February.

And even though we are discussing different subcultures in America, we might as well be talking about different countries. One of the lessons I learned by virtue of deciding to see the world on the McKinsey plan, was that virtually without exception, US companies entering a foreign market would royally screw things up. Even if they’d managed to hire good managers from the new market, the top brass would reject recommended changes to the product or branding to cater to local tastes: “They can’t possibly want that! Of course they’ll prefer our superior dog food!” They almost always had to fail before they’d listen to how the locals thought about things and understand why they wanted what they wanted.

I had sent a link from the Ghion Journal, which was and is pretty up in arms about the Covid vaccines, as an example of vaccine alarmism in the black community. IM Doc said then that he was hearing a lot of reports from doctors in his network in big cities of vaccine hesitancy among blacks and if anything more so among Latinos at that point. But he was the first to alert me to opposition among conservative Christians, beyond those based on the mistaken belief that fetal cells had somehow been used in vaccine development (true in a very strained sense with the J&J vaccine). From his e-mail:

We are seeing all this rage and rush to get vaccinated right now. It is easy to assume there is widespread demand. That is not true…. And then the fun will begin. If you think the anti-mask, anti-lockdown people have been ridiculed and shamed – you have not seen anything yet. I know my Big Pharma and it is obvious they have a stranglehold on our agencies and politicians. They have gotten so used to complete acquiescence that they are becoming supremely over-confident. Trust me, if they think they will get away with forced vaccination of kids for school, they have no idea what they are stepping in. Also, I can think of no quicker way to bankruptcy for airlines and cruise companies then to demand a vaccine passport. They will instantly cut their customer base by 30-40%.

It is not just blacks and Latinos. Our medical and public health elites have their head so far up their ass that they are missing critical cultural and religious issues going on all over this country with regard to the vaccine. For example, my oh so Protestant family members and all their friends back home have zero intention of taking this vaccine. All the talk of vaccine passports and vaccine cards to get in and out of stores and restaurants and events have convinced them that this is the first manifestation of the long anticipated Mark of the Beast. To take the Mark of the Beast is a certain trip to Hell for Eternity….And because of our elites’ complete bungling insensitivity, they have already completely and permanently alienated these people. Again, this is being preached from their pulpits, and no amount of coercion or threats is going to work. I grew up in that environment. I know what I am talking about. They will starve to death before they take The Mark of the Beast.

I have no idea how large this population is. IM Doc gave an estimate for rural America and the South that struck me as high, having lived in the rural upper Midwest, Oregon, and spent a lot of time in Maine. But the point is this is a cohort that is not trivial in size, and its existence has finally gotten the attention of some in the officialdom, too late in the game for them to change course. You’ll see the out-of-touch recommendation in the piece:

…faith leaders can guide their followers and use their pulpits to encourage parishioners that the vaccine is safe and in line with religious doctrines.

That could work with concerns that are based on misinformation, but not ones based on views that see social control/surveillance as evil. There’s no way of prettying up the more heavy-handed schemes to get citizens to take the shot.

And IM Doc, then as now, argued that the bureaucrats have done a terrible job with general practitioners by failing to give the information needed to give honest answers and “best available data” assessments of outcomes and risks:

And again, I will remind you – as a primary care physician I have been tasked with educating patients about these vaccines. I have little if any information about safety. I have zero information on how these vaccines will help death or hospitalizations. I have zero information on how long the immunity will last. I have zero credible and often wildly disparate information about whether it will work on these variants, which are now this month’s panic porn topic on the news. I have very educated patients who come to ask questions all day every day. I will not lie to them, nor will I smile and pass out happy horse shit like so many of my colleagues seem to be doing. The medical elites have put the normal PCPs of this country in a very difficult if not impossible situation.

I hope and pray that all goes well. I, like everyone else, want this to be over. However, if something goes majorly wrong with this gamble, God help us.

By Monique Deal Barlow, Doctoral Student of Political Science, Georgia State University. Originally published at The Conversation

While the majority of Americans either intend to get the COVID-19 vaccine or have already received their shots, getting white evangelicals to vaccination sites may prove more of a challenge – especially those who identify as Christian nationalists.

A Pew Research Center survey conducted in February found white evangelicals to be the religious group least likely to say they’d be vaccinated against the coronavirus. Nearly half (45%) said they would not get the COVID-19 shot, compared with 30% of the general population.

Some evangelicals have even linked coronavirus vaccinations to the “mark of the beast”– a symbol of submission to the Antichrist found in biblical prophecies, Revelation 13:18.

As a scholar of religion and society, I know that this skepticism among evangelicals has a background. Suspicion from religious conservatives regarding the COVID-19 vaccine is built on the back of their growing distrustof science, medicine and the global elite.

‘Anti-Mask, Anti-Social Distance, Anti-Vaccine’

Vaccine hesitancy is not restricted to immunization over COVID-19. In 2017, the Pew Research Center found that more than 20% of white evangelicals – more than any other group – believed that “parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children, even if that may create health risks for other children and adults.”

Meanwhile, there are concerns that many white evangelicals are becoming more radical. Faith is not in itself an indication of extremism, but the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 showed that there is a problem when it comes to some evangelicals also holding extreme beliefs. White evangelicalism, in particular, has been susceptible to Christian nationalism– the belief that the U.S. is a Christian nation that should serve the interests of white Americans.

Those who identify as Christian nationalists believe they are God’s chosen people and will be protected from any illness or disease.

This proves problematic when it comes to vaccinations. A study earlier this year found Christian nationalists were far more likely to abstain from taking the COVID-19 vaccine. It builds on research that found Christian nationalism was a leading predictor of ignoring precautionary behaviors regarding coronavirus.

Christian nationalists tend to place vaccinations within a worldview that generally distrusts science and scientists as a threat to the moral order. This was seen in the response of many on the religious right to guidance on masks and social distancing as well as, now, vaccines.

And in some cases it was driven by church leaders in the wider conservative evangelical community. For example, Tony Spell, a minister at the Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, defied authorities in holding mass church gatherings even after the state deemed them illegal. He has also rejected warnings that the pandemic is dangerous, stating, “We’re anti-mask, anti-social distancing, and anti-vaccine.”

He believes the vaccine is politically motivated and has used his pulpit to discourage church members from taking the vaccine.

This anti-vaccine attitude fits with the anti-government libertarianism that predominates among Christian nationalists. Many within the movement place this belief in freedom from government action within a traditional religious framework.

They feel that COVID-19 is God’s divinely ordained message telling the world to change. If the government tells them to go against that idea and vaccinate, many of them they feel they are either going against God’s will or that the government is violating their religious freedom.

Such a view was also seen before the vaccination rollout. White evangelicals were the least likely religious group to support mandated closures of businesses, for example.

Countering Misinformation

The problem isn’t just that Christian nationalist beliefs will be a considerable barrier to herd immunity. To dispel myths about the COVID-19 vaccination among conservative religious communities, church leaders need to be enlisted to communicate facts about the vaccine to their parishioners – who may trust church leaders more than scientists and the government.

For vaccination rates to be increased, messages must come from trusted people in the community. The opinion of a government official will in many instances matter far less to a Christian nationalist than advice from a church leader.

As such, I argue, faith leaders can guide their followers and use their pulpits to encourage parishioners that the vaccine is safe and in line with religious doctrines.

To enable this, church leaders need to both understand and communicate to parishioners the origins of the vaccine. Many evangelicals are under the mistaken impression that vaccines were developed using fresh fetal tissue and are immensely troubled by that fact.

In reality, none of the vaccinations for COVID-19 available in the U.S. was manufactured using new fetal stem cells, but the Johnson & Johnson one was developed using lab-created stem cell lines derived from a decades-old aborted fetus. Many evangelical churches have determined that it is ethical for anti-abortion Christians to take the other vaccines when there are no other options for the preservation of life.

Some within the wider evangelical movement have begun sounding the alarm over the influence of radicalized Christian nationalism.

After the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, a coalition of evangelical leaders published an open letter warning: “We recognize that evangelicalism, and white evangelicalism in particular, has been susceptible to the heresy of Christian nationalism because of a long history of faith leaders accommodating white supremacy.”

And many high-profile evangelical leaders acknowledge that they can maintain their personal and biblical integrity while also supporting scientific breakthroughs by connecting what they see as the wonders of God’s universe to science.

For example, Francis Collins, head of the National Institutes of Health and a devoted evangelical Christian, has said: “The church, in this time of confusion, ought to be a beacon, a light on the hill, an entity that believes in truth.”

“This is a great moment for the church to say, no matter how well intentioned someone’s opinions may be, if they’re not based upon the fact, the church should not endorse them.”

The Pale Scot

Every infected animal is an unguided experiment for the virus, like monkeys typing. I don’t know where the idea that viruses become less virulent as time goes on. Certainly didn’t happen to Small Pox, Measles or Ebola. More likely treatments become more effective resulting in less harm. Flu viruses are unstable enough to mutate themselves away (Spanish Flu). In the big picture there are models that indicate that a quick killing virus will die out simply because victims are dead before they can effectively shed large amounts virions so theoretically the disease will moderate. That goes out the window when there is a large reservoir of unidentified asymptomatic infected people. Every infection results in billions of virions being created, each an individual genetic experiment. Despite the optimistic talk that COVID has a slow rate of mutations, quantity has a quality all it’s own. 130 million infected globally times billions of virions made in each individual are a countless number of experiments.

A none significant number of young previously healthy people are getting intubated. Coolidge athletes that tested positive but were asymptomatic are presently lung and heart anomalies. Some of the vaccinated will get infected, some of those will shed. But the number of experiments/mutations will go down the more widespread vaccinations become, making it less likely that a more harmful variant will emerge.

Don’t let perfection be the obstacle to effective. Get vaccinated and keep wearing surgical masks. You won’t get sick, and there’s little chance of you infecting someone else

 
  1. Larry Gilman

    Well said. It’s simple: we should just get the damn vaccine, not because the demigods of authority say so but because the scientific data are copious, supportive, and publicly available. Complaints that we are being told to obey blindly baffle me: the opposite is true. Studies are being released daily into the peer-reviewed literature, and reported in the scientific and general press, on every aspect of vaccine efficacy and safety. The journal Nature summarizes key papers as they appear: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00502-w Also of current note: “CDC Real-World Study Confirms Protective Benefits of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines” — https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html . The information problem is glut, not dearth.

     
    1. IM Doc

      I would love if someone – anyone – in our federal agencies or media could begin to explain this to the American public rationally and without panic or fear or crying.

      I am not seeing it. What I see is chaos, confusion, walk backs, lies, statistical contortions and distortions. I get to listen to my patients every day, many very bright people, struggle with this and what they should do.

      I never dreamed I would live to see the day that our CDC and other agencies were such a cluster. I literally heard the very same official say something on one station today and the exact opposite on another station.

      It has been gross incompetence. I was looking forward to this getting better with Biden. I am seeing no indication that is happening.

IM Doc

As far as the family members I have talked to they could care less about passports and foreign travel.

We use the word passport unfortunately in our conversation today about entering stores restaurants and events. A restriction of buying and selling. That is their concern – and it is in black and white in the 13th chapter of the revelation of St. John.

And FYI also ingrained in this theology is the concept that this will be a time of great coercion.

These Bobos in our public health leadership have truly hit all the marks. Having grown up in it,
I often get triggered when I hear theses officials talking.

The whole foreign travel issue means nothing to them. They view it as just one more way the elites are condescending. So continuing to talk about that issue further by the national media will just drive the wedge further. But when do they care about that?

  1. flora

    “getting rid of the Unvaccinated is not a question of ideology. It is a question of cleanliness,” …or something like that. (Did I read this in a history book? )

     
    1. IM Doc

      I know exactly to what you refer –

      And so do my family members. And they are feeling it every day.

      Here is the thing that most people do not understand. They have been getting ready for what they perceive as their “time of trials” as long as I have been alive. (And hint – so have others – similar things are going on right now in Amish/Mennonite and even more rural Mormon communities – hell I have even heard Catholic patients say things that have frozen my eyeballs). It is not just the vaccine. They view their culture and their way of life as under full frontal assault.

      And who can blame them? Most of these people live in the exact same areas that our public health officials and medical establishment have let rot with opiates while the Sacklers were laughing their way to the bank. We have allowed their economy and jobs to be shipped overseas. We are now telling them – many of them as dirt poor as I have ever seen – get over it ass wipe – leave your white privilege at the door. We have all got to watch the spectacle of our culture this year celebrating WAP and gay rappers being sodomized by Satan while doing lap dances on a stripper pole to hell. All of this has been foretold by their spiritual leaders to be the signs to get ready – here it comes. And you just have to trust me – they are getting ready.

      The elites of this country can laugh and condescend and make fun and name-call all they want – it is being duly noted. They are completely ignoring you at this time.

      I have been a liberal Dem most of my adult life. I thought they represented the little guy and the common man. Those days are now over. The left wing in this country today seems to be congenitally unable to pull their heads out. I certainly am not enamored of the GOP. It is a true indication of where we are that our polity is getting worse as the need for it to be functional grows every day.

      I may not believe with my family anymore – but I can certainly see their perspective in life. How hard would it have been to find folks that understood them – and were able to talk to them at their level? I am afraid that time has passed. Trying to get their preachers on board at this late stage is LOL funny and is evidence of what I am talking about – these officials and pundits literally have no clue.

      This is not going to go down without a fight – and threats of coercion and authority are only going to make it worse. There is a reason that guns and ammunition have been selling like hotcakes for the past year or so. This is not going to be the same story as Nazi Germany and the Jewish people. I am sensing a much closer correlation to the French Revolution and the rot of the elites during that time frame.

      I may not like it – I may personally abhor it. But to ignore it, to try to talk over it, to try to sweet talk is just not going to work. To try to “woke” our way out of it like this article above is the last thing we should be doing. The sooner the officials learn that the better.

      Sorry about the rant. I have deep respect for my family members – even with how much I disagree with them. I feel strongly that their voices need to be heard in any conversation like this.

  1. IM Doc

    As if we needed more evidence of the severe emotional strain that our young people are under – and that I have been seeing all year – Everyone should look at the tweets put out recently by the young man who assaulted the Capitol today.

    His name is Noah X – and he is apparently a follower of Luis Farakkhan. But he referenced in his tweets Elijah Muhammad (Jesus) – and the Beast and the End of Time.

    How ironic that this post was put up this AM.

    I am telling you, I have never seen anything like this in the 30 years of medicine. The extreme mental stress this pandemic and all the issues surrounding it have placed on our young people. I am seeing it every day of my life. I am many days as dark as I ever felt in my life. If you want to know why many health care workers are at the breaking point – this is why. I would not at all be surprised when this whole story comes out that there is a physician or provider somewhere who saw this young man – and his suffering. And felt powerless to do a thing about it. All I can say is that after awhile – it really begins to get to you.

    What gets me is that so many older and more well off seem to be totally blind to what is going on. What is more deeply disturbing in the face of a tragedy like this that all sides are rushing to politicize this on our broadcast and social media. WINNING!

    Last night was Holy Thursday. We watched as the feet of the lowest among us were washed. Man, do we all ever need to absorb that lesson in our souls.

    As I have said many times – I appreciate this website – it allows thinking people of all stripes to vent, to explain, to learn from one another with respect and dignity – I wish the rest of the country were like that.


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