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IM Doc pt 35
Mar. 1st, 2022 05:14 pmAn Undiscovered Coronavirus? The Mystery of the ‘Russian Flu’ New York Times (Kevin W). How long has IM Doc been talking about this? At least a year?
Cannabidiol Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication and Promotes the Host Innate Immune Response NCBI. Igancio and KLG regard this as promising, the study is careful. IM Doc is skeptical based on the number of perma stoned ski bums he has seen with acute Covid. Ignacio retorts that the study used only one specific cannabinoid; the others played no role.
I hate wading into this: Efficacy of Ivermectin Treatment on Disease Progression Among Adults With Mild to Moderate COVID-19 and Comorbidities JAMA
Versus:
CNN vs Ivermectin Igor Chudov
The new 1טeרmEכזiה paper proves it works. Jessica Rose
And IM Doc:
At the conference I attended this AM – this JAMA paper was brought up – and the conclusion was – maybe we had better look into this – this seems to have some effect.
If I read correctly – and please correct me if I am wrong – I am very tired – and may have missed something :
52 patients on IVM and 43 in the placebo group progressed to a severe form. OK. What is a severe form, what does that mean in the context of looking at the IMPORTANT data points? TO WIT: 4 ventilated in the IVM group, 10 in the placebo. 6 admissions in IS in the IVM group, 8 in the placebo. 3 deaths in the IVM group, 10 in the placebo.
So EVERYONE is concentrating on the fact that these already sick patients – IVERMECTIN had more that progressed to the sick form than placebo. “Progressing to the sick form” is always rather squishy and very subjective.
In the 3 endpoints that I care about as a practicing physician – ending up on a ventilator, admission, and death- IVM did way better than placebo. If we use relative risk reduction as PHARMA and the NEJM lavished on the vaccines – ventilation and death were both higher than 70% and admission higher than 50….Please remember – the vaccines are still touted as highly effective with RRV of SYMPTOMS now in the 20% range.
Again, the ID fellow left the audience today with the conclusion that this may really be beneficial – but here we are debating headlines again in our national media. NO ONE IS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE UNDERLYING DATA POINTS – JUST THE HEADLINES.
I am really sick and tired of this game. FFS – it has an incredible safety profile – it is cheap – and it has the above efficacy numbers for admissions, ventilations, and death. And yet – the press is still screaming IVM is dead – and this proves it. IT FAILED TO PREVENT THE SEVERE FORM – whatever that means. According to the clinical endpoints, it is certainly more helpful than Remdesevir. This study seems to suggest that it is a valuable tool to be used – certainly better than what we have available now. This study makes me want to use it more ——-
“Just Scandalous”: CDC Withholding Most of the Covid Data It Gathers. What Is It Trying to Hide?
Even very politically seasoned and jaded contacts are gobsmacked by the New York Times’ revelation that the CDC is not releasing most of the data it collects. As we’ll discuss shortly, this is dramatic change from the agency’s posture in previous outbreaks. And the disappeared info includes types it published earlier in the pandemic.
However, this isn’t news to our Covid brain trust. GM has been pointing out for months about how quite a few states have been playing games with their reporting, such as periodic catch up dumps, going from daily to weekly, and sometimes reports that don’t seem plausible. IM Doc described how the CDC has abandoned its role of advising practitioners on emerging symptoms and patterns of disease progress, along with local data failures which mean national one.1
It’s disappointing that the Grey Lady failed to take the obvious next step of filing a FOIA for the apparently-to-hot-to-handle details. Since the CDC has published precisely this sort of information in the past, it would not seem to have a leg to stand on faced with a legal challenge.
Key sections from the article:
For more than a year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has collected data on hospitalizations for Covid-19 in the United States and broken it down by age, race and vaccination status. But it has not made most of the information public.
When the C.D.C. published the first significant data on the effectiveness of boosters in adults younger than 65 two weeks ago, it left out the numbers for a huge portion of that population: 18- to 49-year-olds, the group least likely to benefit from extra shots, because the first two doses already left them well-protected.
The agency recently debuted a dashboard of wastewater data on its website that will be updated daily and might provide early signals of an oncoming surge of Covid cases. Some states and localities had been sharing wastewater information with the agency since the start of the pandemic, but it had never before released those findings.
Two full years into the pandemic, the agency leading the country’s response to the public health emergency has published only a tiny fraction of the data it has collected, several people familiar with the data said.
Much of the withheld information could help state and local health officials better target their efforts to bring the virus under control. Detailed, timely data on hospitalizations by age and race would help health officials identify and help the populations at highest risk. Information on hospitalizations and death by age and vaccination status would have helped inform whether healthy adults needed booster shots. And wastewater surveillance across the nation would spot outbreaks and emerging variants early….
The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public.
Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire for not tracking so-called breakthrough infections in vaccinated Americans, and focusing only on individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk comparisons with unvaccinated adults, rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients stratified by age, sex, race and vaccination status..
If you see the second part of the footnote at the end of this post, the CDC does not in fact have accurate data on vaccinated v. unvaccinated status. It is entirely absent in IM Doc’s state. He is listed as unvaccinated (the apparent default) despite multiple attempts to get his record corrected. He also has many Covid patients in his hospital listed as unvaccinated who were in fact vaccinated and in some cases boosted. I can’t think his state is the only one.
It sure looks like the CDC thinks its just fine to give doctors and the public the mushroom treatment in the interest of narrative control and shielding the CDC from criticism when its information quality is poor. But unpleasant truths, like the much-shorter-than-hoped duration of vaccine-induced immunity, has gotten through anyhow thanks to reporting from countries that are competent at data collection, such as Israel. The article offers other excuses, like “The public might misuse the information!” and “The info from states isn’t always so hot.” Re the latter, gee, why weren’t you offering to help? Last I checked, the CDC has 32,000 employees. Surely a few could be tasked to help out particular states?
The article points out that the CDC has data for only 10% (of adults?) and it uses this sort of sampling for influenza data. But what kind of sampling methodology omits an entire state?
The reality is that the officials don’t like what the data shows. As GM has repeatedly pointed out, after 10 weeks, the efficacy of boosters even against serious cases drops to below 50%, which is too low a level to be very protective. Yet the European Medicines agency has advised against multiple boosters in a year due to the risk of overtaxing the immune system.
The CDC and FDA have backed themselves in a corner by recommending only vaccines as a Covid defense and continuing to depict masks as an imposition that is necessary only in surges. So data that shows that the vaccines are not terribly effective against Omicron and Omicron BA.2, by admitting that there are vaccinated and boosted individuals who wound up in the hospital, is something they can’t afford to acknowledge. So instead they have pre-positioned the blame cannons so that pointing out the (now considerable under new variants) limitations of the vaccines is smeared as being anti-vaxx.
Then we have patently ridiculous statements like this:
Relying on Israeli data to make booster recommendations for Americans was less than ideal, Dr. Offit noted. Israel defines severe disease differently than the United States, among other factors.
“There’s no reason that they should be better at collecting and putting forth data than we were,” Dr. Offit said of Israeli scientists. “The C.D.C. is the principal epidemiological agency in this country, and so you would like to think the data came from them.”
Huh? First, Israel is a country of nine million people with universal health coverage, even of permanent residents. So they have centralized data gathering. The US has the primary responsibility for public health at the state level. Second, in the US, health care is about money, not health. I was shocked at how long it took my mother, me, and our aide to get vaccinated because the pharmacy had trouble working out how to bill for my shot, and even more so for my mother’s. So why should we be any good at health metrics when that isn’t a priority?
Yet they have the temerity to call themselves “the premier public health agency in the world.” The CDC is running on brand fumes. As IM Doc noted about this story in comments yesterday:
A little bit of history –
When America first found out about AIDS – it was from the MMWR – Mortality & Morbidity Weekly Report – that has been published by the CDC for decades. This was also the tabulation source during the AIDS crisis of all of the other issues going on from PCP pneumonia to toxoplasma of the brain to all the cancers going on in AIDS patients. The CDC was all over it. The same can be said of ZIKA, West Nile Virus, and countless others. Our CDC was the envy of the world. They worked in total transparency and published all their numbers very quickly.
It is important to note how vitally important that information was for clinicians on the ground during AIDS. It gave us some kind of perspective on problems, their prevalence, and sharing treatment ideas.
This has been one of the most notable failures of the CDC this time – the MMWR may as well be parrot cage liner. They have not been sharing complete information from the beginning about hospitalizations, deaths, vaccine issues, you name it.
For those of us who are veterans – it has been a striking difference. And the tragedy is Dr. Walensky was so vocal early on about how she was going to work on getting the statistics and epidemiologic wings of the CDC up to their former glory.
And from scientist GM:
No surprise whatsoever, other than that this is even discussed in the NYT.
How many vaccinated people are dying is a closely guarded secret at the federal level, and only a few states are releasing that information locally.
I met someone recently who works in the tech world doing quite advanced stuff, and he genuinely thought that 99% of the people who are dying are unvaccinated.
In reality for very recent time periods (i.e. deep into the Omicron wave) I have only seen numbers for Israel, UK, WA, and MA and the majority of people dying now, 50% to 80%, are in fact vaccinated.
But even quite highly educated people who are not following things closely are completely delusional about the situation. Partly because the propaganda has worked very well, partly because their critical thinking skills are apparently not very well developed, because alarms should be immediately ringing in one’s mind when he sees all the double and triple vaxxed people in their 20s and 30s getting absolutely hammered by Omicron all around him and yet the claims are that nobody vaccinated is dying. That is simply impossible from first principles — VE [vaccine effectiveness] went down the drain even with respect to quite nasty illness in young healthy people, but somehow it is still at 99% against death in the elderly with serious comorbidities? That is just absurd…
The problem is that when people point out that so many vaccinated people are dying, the mob descends on them, calling them antivaxxers.
Thus nobody has actually even dared say the complete truth, which is that we actually have **thousands** vaccinated dying every day in the US. It is always mentioned as **hundreds**. But it was 58% of the dead being vaccinated in MA the last time I saw numbers, and MA is a highly vaccinated state, but not UK-level highly vaccinated, so I doubt it is less than 35-40% currently anywhere in the country and the average is at minimum at that too.
Officially deaths peaked at 2,600 a day this winter.
But, we know excess deaths have been running at 20-25% higher throughout the pandemic because of insufficient testing and outright faked death certificates. So make that 3,000 in reality.
Also, last year there were many big data dumps months after the winter wave passed, that overall added some 20K deaths. This year reporting has been much more irregular and many states have been moving towards not reporting at all in real time. So the safe bet is that there will both be even bigger data dumps in the coming months and that the discrepancy between official and excess deaths is higher and will keep increasing.
So 3,000 a day in total is the minimum, while I would not at all be surprised if the actual number crossed 4,000 at the peak and that we are at more than 3,000 a day even now.
But let’s take it to be 3,000, 35% of that is 1,000 dead a day, 50% of it is 1,500.
That these numbers are probably correct is also corroborated by the data from Israel — Israel actually releases that information and hey have had most of their deaths in the vaccinated in this wave (and “vaccinated” there means three doses, not two, when you add those in the “expired” category, it gets to 70-80% of all deaths). They peaked in this wave at levels equivalent to over 3,000 dead a day in the US. Vaccination rates are somewhat comparable, i.e. Israel is not UK-level, everyone-vulnerable-with-at-least-two-and-most-with-three-shots because of the religious factor.
The UK itself peaked at the equivalent of 1500 dead a day in the US and 80% of those were vaccinated, so even if vaccination in the US had been at comparable levels, the US would have had over 1000 vaccinated dying every day.
Recall that in summer 2020, before we had vaccines, the US peak was at 1,200 a day. And that was a tragedy back then. Now we are above that just within the vaccinated and it is almost completely covered up.
And now it has all been declared over, which means that boosting will be forgotten as a concern even further, and the next variant will be met with no NPIs and vaccines that have faded to very low levels of protection among much of the population….
Here we are. The eagerness of American elites to maintain their illusion of competence is digging our collective Covid hole even deeper. And even though treated-as-if-they-are-dispensable essential workers and the elderly will fare worst, it’s not as if those at the top of the food chain will escape unscathed. But by the time enough of them individually get wake-up calls so as to puncture their collective denial, it will be too late to change course. It is already too late now.
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1 Some IM Doc doozies. From August:
I was informed today by the Health Dept that they have absolutely zero way of tracking correctly vaccinated cases. In that they do not have the ability to retrospectively find out which vaccination the person has had. So there is no way the CDC will be having this kind of detail, unless other states are doing this. I seriously kind of doubt it. It is now looking more and more that it is going to be up to local physicians like myself.
And November:
When you have been doing this as long as I have, you have a memory of what happened before and with that comes certain expectations about what should be happening now. I think that is what separates the older than 55 crowd from the under 40 crowd.
We do not even have to go back to AIDS. I am thinking of the last 2 events in my career where there was exceptional involvement from the CDC. In 2018, we had the vaping crisis. In 2012 or thereabouts, we had the West Nile issue. Although that virus had been with us since 2001 here in the USA, it really exploded in the summer of 2012 in the Deep South in the USA. I will not include the 2014 Ebola problem. The CDC was very involved there but that never really had to be taken nationally, these other 2 examples did.
In both cases, there was frequent, at times weekly updating from the CDC about treatment options and guidelines. There was intense discussion of what seemed to be working and what did not. In both cases, these treatment options were obviously non-approved for these purposes by the FDA. There was a crisis, and this is what we have available, and this is how you should be using them. This is what works. This is what does not work. And this is our evidence why we feel the way we do. This was constant from the CDC in both cases.
That has simply not happened at all in COVID. Here we are 2 years into this. There is not a single shred of treatment advice from the CDC outside of the inpatient setting. Let’s face it – most antiviral efforts have to be done immediately. That would mean where I work in an outpatient setting is the golden hour. If we wait till the patients are in the hospital they are going to have much worse outcomes. The agencies are saying nothing about outpatient therapy and have put forth nothing. We have worldwide studies on fluvoxamine, ivermectin, HCQ, steroids, VIT D, VIT C, Zinc, and I am sure there are many others. We now have monoclonal AB. A question – have you ever heard Dr. Fauci discuss monoclonal AB in a positive way? If you have please show it to me.
There has been no guidance at all about any of these therapy options. There has been lots of censoring, hectoring, belittling, and confusion. It is unusual to find a physician willing to engage any of these therapies, despite some of them having overwhelming positive signals in early outpatient therapy.
There is not ONE single bullet. By now, 2 years into this we should be throwing all kinds of things at these patients – anti-virals, anti-clotting agents, anti-inflammatory agents. But we are doing nothing.
Again, our CDC has done nothing to help with this at all. NOTHING. Not only the CDC. In previous events, there was treatment advice flowing from medical schools around the country. CRICKETS.
We have gone all in on the vaccine approach and have done so from the beginning.
Now, the bill is due. My office is literally flooding with vaxxed and boosted patients that are very ill. We are in a precarious situation with the hospitals of America. They are in much worse shape employee-wise than many Americans would dare dream.
I feel all alone. I feel it is my sworn job to keep as many of these people safe and out of the hospital as possible. But there is literally no help from the CDC at all VAX VAX VAX. Here is the problem – about 85% of these patients in my practice that are now positive and getting sicker by the day are already VAXED Many of them boostered. We are in the middle of a crisis with the hospitals – and we simply cannot fill them up the way we have.
I have never felt so shat on professionally in my life. I am having to weave together treatment protocols from multiple sources. And hope for the best that we can survive.
“Bankruptcy For Moderna, Definitely Pfizer”
Yves here. I’m in no position to verify the underlying data, but the fact that both Moderna and Pfizer stocks are markedly down says investors regard these concerns about vaccine liability as serious.
A lawyer buddy thinks that even if this take on the frequency of bad side effect is spot on, Pfizer and Moderna still might get off the hook on product liability in the US. However, shareholders would have them dead to rights on securities fraud, for not disclosing to investors the information they had about serious vaccine side effects and the impact that could have on willingness to get boosted. In addition, foreign countries that also gave liability waivers are not as likely to be forgiving as the US. We could see a Boeing 737 Max replay, of foreign regulators lowering the boom and the US position eventually becoming untenable.
The plural of anecdote is not data, but consider this from IM Doc:
I will report what I am hearing as recently as yesterday.
An ex-Covid-vaccine company executive.
There are lots of detonations getting ready to happen. The life insurance companies and many Wall Street firms who feel they have been defrauded are the ones getting the cannons ready to fire.
My understanding is the liability is actually not the adverse events as such. They have liability waivers for that. It is for fraud. Once fraud is proven, the liability wavers go poof. Apparently, there are people lining up with hands open willing to sell all kinds of damning documents.
We were apparently not alone with the “something is wrong” take from the earliest paper. The incident with the testing centers being accused of fraud by employees, the subsequent bmj paper about that, the two vaccinologists resigning from FDA, and now the latest CDC admissions and presenting papers for FOIA with everything redacted – all are taking a toll.
apparently, the play here is the insurance companies and hedge funds screwed by disastrous Moderna and biontech share prices are taking the lead for the fraud to be shown. Then they will sue these companies for damages.
I asked the guy if he thought it would work. His response “Pfizer certainly does.”
In the meantime, as alluded to above, this sort of thing does not inspire confidence:
By Raúl Ilargi Meijer, editor at Automatic Earth. Originally published at Automatic Earth
Justus R. Hope, MD, at Desert Review has a long article up on the views of former Blackrock exec, hedge funder, investment adviser Edward Dowd, along with a neverending list of podcasts. To which I will add a few at the bottom of this article. We’ve seen a few Dowd videos lately, but nothing like this. He should be on Joe Rogan ASAP.
The entire thing is so complete, devastating, shocking, that I don’t know what else to do than give you some quotes. It very much feels like the end of mRNA, and of the FDA in its present shape, because they -the government itself- are deeply complicit in outright investor fraud. Wall Street (“multiple brokerage houses”) is finding this out, Moderna stock is already down 70%, and that’s just the start.
mRNA vaccines are killing and maiming people: “..no matter the effort, one cannot hide the bodies – and “the bodies are piling up.”
Good luck with your vaxx mandates.
Pfizer & Moderna Investors Run for the Exits
Wall Street investors are dumping their Moderna and Pfizer stock faster than the world can drop the mandates. Moderna is down 70 percent from its high, while Pfizer is off 19 percent. Former Blackrock Executive and investment adviser Edward Dowd calls for Moderna to go to zero and Pfizer to end under ten dollars per share.
How is this possible given that Pfizer now enjoys record earnings per share and a market capitalization of some $270 billion, making it the 29th largest corporation globally? With nothing but profits in sight for the Pharmaceutical giant, what could be the problem?
[..] For the skeptics, consider that Pfizer stock lost $20 billion in market capitalization on February 8, 2022, when their record earnings fell short of more optimistic expectations. Also consider that Moderna’s stock is down some 70 percent from its high of $484 on August 9, 2021, wiping out almost $ 140 billion in investment. Dowd predicts Moderna will drop to zero with bankruptcy as fraud related to concealing the COVID vaccine dangers surfaces, and he predicts Pfizer will become a sub-ten-dollar stock. Dowd explains that the smart money has already left Moderna and will soon be exiting Pfizer.
Dowd foresees an avalanche of lawsuits coming as the insurance industry continues to uncover the legions of mounting deaths coming from the complications of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. Dowd teamed up with an insurance industry analyst and researched the life insurance claims. They found that since OneAmerica shocked the world by announcing a 40% rise in non-COVID deaths in younger working-class employees, multiple other insurance companies worldwide have seen the same thing – massive rises in non-COVID deaths. And the evidence inescapably points to the vaccines as the cause.
Meanwhile, the funeral company stocks have outperformed the S&P. “Funeral Home companies are growth stocks. They had a great year in 2021 compared to 2020, and they outperformed the S&P 500. The peer group of Funeral Home stocks was up 40 plus percent while the S&P was up 26 percent – and they started accelerating price-wise in 2021 during the roll-out of the vaccines – You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots here.”
Other insurance companies have reported the same or worse death numbers as OneAmerica. For example, “Unum Insurance is up 36%, Lincoln National plus 57%, Prudential plus 41%, Reinsurance Group of America plus 21%, Hartford plus 32%, Met Life plus 24%, and Aegon – which is a Dutch insurer – saw in their US arm plus 57% in the 4th quarter – in the 3rd quarter they saw a 258% increase in death claims.”
“They raised (mortality) expectations 300,000 for 2022 over 2021 due to COVID plus ‘indirect COVID,’ which I think we know what that’s code for… They (Aegon) did a $1.4 billion reinsurance deal with Wilton Reinsurance…what they were reinsuring were high face amount individual policies from 1 million to 10 million… (So) I think there is an asymmetric information situation going on in the insurance industry where some people have figured out something’s going on. They are off-loading their risk – they are not going to say what it is as they don’t want that information to get out as they unload the risk.”.
“Someone is going to be the bag holder here.” And Dowd is confident it won’t be the insurance industry. A court in France has already held that a life insurance company cannot be held liable for a death because of the mRNA vaccine. But that does not explain how mRNA manufacturers can be held responsible for an emergency product they were told was liability-free. Aren’t the vaccine manufacturers immunized from lawsuits? After all, they were granted EUA, the specialized Emergency Use Authorization, which means they cannot be held legally accountable for deaths or adverse effects stemming from the experimental vaccines.
The idea is that no company – upon government request – should have to pay for unforeseen complications resulting from an emergency product that they released to the world out of their goodness of the hearts, with the best of intentions. Right? Wrong – not when your company accomplishes this through deceit, also known as fraud. Fraud undoes all these protections. If a company or person intentionally deceives another to profit, we have fraud. If Pfizer’s data showed increased all-cause mortality and hid this to motivate people to take the vaccine while claiming it was safe, then fraud exists.
Under common law, the required elements to prove fraud amount to: #1. A materially false statement or purposeful failure to state or release material facts which non-disclosure makes other statements misleading. #2. The false statement is made to induce Plaintiff to act. #3. The Plaintiff relied upon the false statement, and the injury resulted from this reliance. #4. Damages include a punitive award as a punishment that serves as a public example to discourage any future similar fraud. Punitive damages are generally proportional to the Defendant’s assets.
Dowd has been researching the COVID-19 vaccines and what he considers obvious evidence of knowing concealment of the actual risks of death – and he points to the Herculean efforts of Pfizer with FDA in withholding their data despite legal challenges to release it. He likens the FDA today to the rating agencies during the Mortgage Crisis. “FDA is the trusted third party, just like the rating agencies were. And a lot of doctors in this country, a lot of local governments are placing their trust in the FDA which gets 50 percent of its budget from large cap pharma. It wasn’t any one person…I think they overlooked things…An all-cause mortality end-point should have stopped this thing in its tracks – and it didn’t.”
There were more deaths in the vaxxed group than in the unvaxxed. Dowd assumes fraud based upon the FDA backing Pfizer in not releasing their data. He believes this is a knowing attempt to conceal the deaths. “When one party enters into a contract…and fraud was occurring when they entered into that contract, and the other party did not know that – the contract is void and null. There’s no indemnity if this can be proven, and I think it will be.” “Pfizer got blanket immunity with EUA. If fraud occurred, to my mind and what I’m seeing from their refusal to release the data – if there is fraud and it comes out – and we need whistleblowers – and it’s looking more apparent that this product is deadly – fraud eviscerates all contracts – that’s case law. So you go down the daisy chain, and that’s liability – that’s bankruptcy for Moderna, definitely Pfizer.”
Dowd remarks that no matter the effort, one cannot hide the bodies – and “the bodies are piling up.” He notes that the deaths skyrocketed after the vaccine rollout when they should have dropped. And the deaths are what distinguished the 2021-2022 vaccine scandal as far worse than what happened with Enron. “People are dying and being maimed. This is a fraud that goes beyond the pale…We have the VAERS data…We have the DoD leak…And now we have the insurance company results and the funeral home results…We don’t need to think too hard about this…Deaths should have gone down after the vaccines rolled out. This is the most egregious fraud in history of the nation – and it’s global…Pfizer’s involved, and they committed fraud,” Dowd explained.
[..] Dowd emphasized that he is not short on Pfizer or Moderna stock. He explained that he does not profit from their share prices dropping. He also points out that his predictions are not the cause of the steep declines as these occurred before he came out with this analysis. “Let me make a point here. The mainstream media may ignore this. Wall Street is not.”
[..] Edward Dowd cautions those who continue to slumber, “If you are long these two stocks, you are long mandates, you are long government control, and you are long the selling of your freedoms.” Let us get everyone on board the freedom train.
More Dowd.
Multiple Brokerage Houses Now Investigate MRNA Jabs
EXCLUSIVE: Wall Street Taps Pfizer Whistleblower to Help Probe Alarming Details of Fraud During VAX Clinical Trials; Former Blackrock’s Edward Dowd Drops More Bombs as ***MULTIPLE*** Brokerage Houses Now Investigate MRNA Jabs
My two cents into this situation.
I think I have made myself abundantly clear about the vaccine mandates in the past. There is no place in medical ethics for coercing any therapy that has not been completely vetted. There is simply no way to do informed consent on these vaccines – the risk cannot be appropriately ascertained and the efficacy certainly is not turning out to be as promised. There is no public health benefit whatsoever with the vaccines as they are right now.
And unfortunately in the fullness of time, I am seeing more and more rather severe problems with the vaccines. It is certainly enough to give me pause. Some of these issues are happening in people who were coerced and threatened with unemployment.
This is an honest question coming from me who was raised by LBJ New Deal Dems all my life — Has anyone thought to wonder why the working man in the past few years seems to be increasingly disgusted by the Dems – and headed to the GOP? —– These truckers are exactly the core consituency of the Dem Party that I grew up in….I do not know a single working class person in my world that wants to have anything to do with the Dems any more. I think that is a core problem that they need to be asking themselves. Can they have a winning majority with the PMC and the WOKE and the coastal elite? They are rapidly becoming just that.
And as I have repeatedly said – the amount of intense and backfiring results these vaccine mandates have had on young American workers I am going to predict will change the political landscape of this country for the next decades. In my office daily is a tidal wave of young kids openly verbalizing to their PCP that they will never support the Dems again. Yes, it is that bad. I have never experienced anything like this in my life. I have never had this level of political discussion in my office in my life. And completely unsolicited from me. I now am seeing large numbers of young Latino men coming in the office with FJB or LGB T-shirts or bling. Unprecedented. Especially in my blue area.
This trucker issue is just one manifestation of this whole phenomenon. I am sure we will be seeing more.
I could not and cannot believe the Dems put their chips on the table with this kind of vaccine mandate. Literally instant revulsion by huge segments of their previous base. It is probably one of the single most stupid political moves I have ever seen in my life.
I am surprised to see it asserted in the main post here that these are experimental vaccines, being administered under an Emergency Use Authorization. That is no longer true – both the Pfizer and Moderna are approved – see
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-takes-key-action-approving-second-covid-19-vaccine
So, when were the Third Phase trials done?
We were the Third Phase Trials.
the general population.
the unvaxxed…however they got there…were the Control Group.
That would make a god t-shirt design. Like with “Security” and “Event” signage, a flourescent coloured vest with a big, bold, “Control” on the back. Then maybe some Biohazard symbols on the shoulders.
I’m waiting for someone “official” to suggest that the Unvaxxed be made to wear coloured stars on their cloths, “for public safety,” of course.
“Unclean! Unclean!” *Rings bell piteously.*
What’s interesting about the full FDA approval is that you cannot get the FDA approved drugs yet. If you ask for cominarty or however you spell it, you won’t find it.
So please inform us all when the two approved vaccinations will be available in the USA –
The approved Pfizer vaccination is called Comrniaty – the approved Moderna vaccination is called Spikevax.
Neither is available nor being used here in the USA. We are still only using the EUA authorized versions. The vaccinees are still being forced to sign a document stating that this is experimental and being used under an EUA. THE EXPERIMENTAL VERSIONS ARE THE ONLY ONES BEING USED HERE IN THE USA.
Yes – the two products have been approved by the FDA. However, those two approved formulations are not being used in the USA nor are there any plans to do so in the near future. Once they do use the approved products in the USA – several things will happen. First of all – a complete disclosure of all side effects will have to be done on any and all advertising including PSAs – just like all other approved therapeutics. Secondly, stringent side effect monitoring will have to begin and have to be reported to the public just like every other approved therapeutic. And like all other approved therapeutics, things like black box warnings may become a reality for these injections. Thirdly, there are all kinds of hoops that will need to be traversed with actually approved meds when kids and vaccination schedules are involved. This is not the case under an EUA. So they are just not going to provide the approved vaccines now or in the conceivable future. And our FDA is just ok with this – and our media has not said a peep.
No one ever said that Big Pharma was not well versed in bamboozlement.
Is there any difference between the EUA and the approved formulations? – well – maybe – maybe not. I have heard multiple stories in conferences. Unfortunately, much of this information is proprietary.
So – ABSOLUTELY NOT – the vaccines still being given today are EUA only – we have yet to give a single approved COVID vaccine in the USA outside of research.
I hesitate to contradict you given your credentials and regard here, but the claim that Comirnaty (the approved Pfizer COVID vaccine, versus the EUA “version”) is not available in the US has been examined by several news sources, and all that I have found say it is false.
* Here is USA today (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/10/20/fact-check-comirnaty-pfizers-fda-approved-vaccine-available-us/8538861002/)
* Here is Politifact (https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/oct/05/ron-johnson/johnson-incorrectly-claims-there-are-no-approved-c/)
* Here is Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-ron-johnson-us-does-not-have-approved-comirnaty-pfizer-vaccine-1636455)
They all claim its falsehood, and that the pre- and post-approval formulations are identical, on the authority of CDC, FDA, or Pfizer sources, of course, and so if you are inclined to distrust those sources you may not find this convincing.
The Newsweek piece also, however, explains why some patients receiving Pfizer doses after the FDA approval date are required to sign an EUA – they are receiving doses manufactured before the approval.
My anecdotal experience is consistent with this explanation: when I received a booster dose in January 2022, I was not required to sign an EUA – the dose I received was manufactured in November 2021. (I was required to sign an EUA for the first two doses in mid-2021.)
The formula being identical does not mean that Pfizer distributing the vaccines made under the EUA an experimental vaccine. It may seem like a technical distinction but in fact if the vaccine being sold is not Comity, it is sold only under the EUA. My old attorney was an FDA specialist; many of her partners were FDA commissioners. She and they would object to the claim in the articles, which effectively take the position that the approval is retroactive. It isn’t. Any Pfizer vaccines made before the approval are sold pursuant to the EUA.
That is not what I took away from the articles, so I’m surprised to hear you say that. The Newsweek article, in particular, says “Chris Beyrer, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told The Washington Post in August that Pfizer COVID vaccines made before the approval could not legally be given Comirnaty branding, even when they are exactly the same.” It then goes on, as I said above, to explain that this legal distinction is why some patients have to sign EUAs even after approval.
So the article does make the distinction you point out, and I see nothing in any of them to suggest a claim of any “retroactive” effect – precisely the opposite. It is the legal (but not chemical) difference between doses manufactured under the EUA and doses manufactured after full FDA approval that is being highlighted.
This is separate from the point that the approval was clearly rushed. No major drug has been approved this quickly. Even STAT cleared its throat about the virtual lack of a statistical review for the EUA, let along the normal process of checking that everyone in the trial existed and their demographics, medical history, and results are accurate. There is no evidence more was done for the full approval.
I would ask anyone out there in the USA who are getting vaccines or boosters – to take a photo of the bottles and lot numbers and submit them to Yves if they are given the actual approved products Comrinaty or Spikevax. I too would like to know if the approved products are actually being used. They certainly are not where I am.
Unfortunately, if your vaccine center gave you an EUA booster and did not give you a form to fill out, they are taking on quite a legal risk. It should say on your card if you were given Comrinaty or not – if it does not say that – you were not given the approved product. If it does – I would urge you to forward that to Yves – in an email – again – it would be comforting to me to see that these approved vaccinations have been started to be given. So far neither myself, anyone in my community, nor anyone among my extensive contact email list all over the country has seen it being done.
I am sorry – but none of the three sources you cite have shone themselves with glory the past 2 years as far as the pandemic has gone. Especially politifact. If I recall correctly – they were the cludgel being used to ban people from Twitter and Facebook for pointing out the vaccines were non-sterilizing. But if anyone out there can confirm they were given these approved products with lot numbers, I for one would be relieved.
As someone who chaired an IRB for a very long time, any attempt to pass off or use a medication manufactured during testing or research or now an EUA phase as an approved med would be met almost assuredly with severe consequences from the IRB and maybe the law.
There is no such thing as retroactive approval.